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JosineZ·1/2/2020

I guess the easiest solution would be to not let the field for 'race' get autofilled and allow for them to be filled in manually. It would mean that we need to go through many character pages and add it again but I could do that eventually. Same for soulname, instead of it defaulting to "unrevealed" when it's not filled in, it should be left out and the few characters that do have a soulname but we don't know what it is we can fill in "unrevealed" manually.

Specific colors for tribes is nice but the autofill becomes unhandy when some characters have switched tribes (Skot and Krim for example) or have none at all. I would remove the auto-fill there as well (and go through every character page to add it manually) and make it manually. Maybe leave the colors but seperate the tribe auto-fill from the 'nation' field (and add some colors for nations like wavedancer, firstborn, unknown (like Dre-Ahn), whatever color we should give Satreeka/Jink? are they first-gen starhomers or something?)

I don't know if there is a more elegant solution for this since I'm not really knowledge-able about template coding and such.

Oh and add fields for titles/aliases and for recognized if you have time.

Edit: one other thing that just struck me, when I add wolf-friends of Jackwolf riders of the Sun Folk to 'animal' the field doesn't have a name (see Dodia for example). Since this only concerns jackwolf riders from the sunfolk I think we can just do the same for the sunfolk like we did for wolfriders.

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JosineZ·1/2/2020

I don't think the Danny Phantom solution would be helpful, since Danny Phantom is a show with very clear and consistent colors while ElfQuest just isn't.

I noticed more problems as I was making more pages for characters that didn't have one:

characters that don't belong to one of the four tribes (like Jink, Satreeka) I'm unable to assign a race for. Filling in the field doesn't override it getting left empty. I've looked at the code for the infobox but honestly I have no idea how to change it without possibly messing it up, is there someone who does?
Because race is defaulted when you assign a tribe (and cannot be overridden), it is not possible to put "half-elf, half-troll" on Two-Edge and instead he's listed as "troll", similar case for Timmorn who is "elf" instead of "half-wolf, half-elf".

I see 'spouses' and 'romances' are used for trolls so contrarily what I first said it seems to have a function, however I do wonder why we don't just have two infobox templates for trolls and elves seperately... Would be a bit more user-friendly but oh well.

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JosineZ·12/30/2019

Things like hair color and eye color are a bit subjective though. For example Strongbow's hair is described as brown right now but arguably it can be called auburn or even red. Similarly, I've seen moonshade eyes been either purple or brown. And how precise do you want to be: is Cutter's hair just blonde or perhaps platina blonde or white blonde? It certainly is a different color than Dewshine's etc. Also as of now, these fields aren't often used.

As for these familial relationships it can be included but I just noticed that these fields are just neglected even when there are known nephews/nieces/uncles/aunts so that's why I figured it might be better to remove as it's not that essential.

On another note I don't think there's a thing for wavedancers yet, like there is for sun folk and wolfriders when you fill in 'nation', so I would like to see that option added.

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JosineZ·12/30/2019 in General

Infobox revision

I've been thinking about the current character infobox that we use but I feel there is a lot of redundant fields that no one ever uses and other fields that I would want to use are missing. Could we revise this somehow? I'm not sure how to go about editing the template itself.

Fields that I don't even know what they're for and never see used: birth, pred, success, more, sequel

Redundant fields:

Either "death" or "cause" needs to go since they have the same function;
physical descriptors like gender, hair, eye and skin color since a picture should suffice and I don't feel like this is important information that should be present in an infobox;
spouse/romances is redundant, we already have lovemate/lifemates and I never see these fields used.
aunts/uncles and nieces/nephews is arguably not really important in terms of familial relationships and you can visualise this easier in a family tree. I'd limit blood relations in the infobox to (grand)parents, siblings and (grand)children,
Allies and enemies / affiliation: Almost no-one uses these fields and I think it can go.
Tribe: I believe tribe is automatically filled in when you fill in the first field for nation

Field I would want to add: one field for aliases, titles and nicknames and a field for recognized

One last thing: I think we should not put soulname as a default on the infobox, basically only Wolfriders have soulnames, so saying Leetah's soulname is "unrevealed" is technically not correct since she doesnt have one. I would like to only have the soulname box on wolfrider pages and just leave it out on pages of other elves (right now, if you leave it blank it defaults to "unrevealed" iirc)

Let me know what you think :)

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